This session explores what happens when the mind encounters emptiness during meditation, including the tendency to fall asleep near states of present awareness. The teacher discusses how being is always already present but overlooked, using metaphors of fish in the ocean, lamps, and Sisyphus to illustrate recognition versus achievement. Dialogues cover the gap between group and solitary practice, the role of curiosity and relationship in spiritual growth, and how waking up transforms repetitive life from burden to joy.