Following the Money to a Deeper Place
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March 29, 2023
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Following the Money to a Deeper Place

Siguiendo el dinero hacia un lugar más profundo

A student discusses years of effort invested in day trading without financial return, and the teacher explores whether a deeper energy and direction might be trying to emerge.

Following the Money to a Deeper Place

A student discusses years of effort invested in day trading without financial return, and the teacher explores whether a deeper energy and direction might be trying to emerge.

I have intellectual interests, but I don't know what direction to take. I've put years into day trading, and it hasn't worked.

If it's work that you find some form of interest in, that's where it starts to become an inner process: what are my skills, my gifts, my interests? And I don't think they're limited to music.

No, but I don't know what else. I know I have things I like intellectually, but I don't know what to pursue.

The real question: is it about trading or about money?

If you had put all of those hours into a different direction that worked, would you supposedly be happier? Or is it that you want to be able to make money in the stock market so you can make music? Is it specifically the day trading you wanted to work, or if you had done something else and that made money, would you have preferred that?

I would go back and do that other thing. I think I might be a bit attached to the trading, but no, it would be good if I had a business with some flexibility.

So then it's really about money. You just thought day trading was the way to make it. That's why I'm suggesting: if you start putting hours into something else where you see more immediate evidence of income, follow the money. Obviously with discernment, but find something you have an interest in. It could be something a business would hire you for, or skills closer to the world of return on investment. I know you did some years of engineering, so you have that kind of mind.

Think of it as: what's available where I have skills, or not just skills, but an innate ability that lets me see money more quickly? That's different from building a business where you start to see signs of things moving. If you're just learning a skill and over many years that same skill still isn't working for you, something needs to change.

Yeah, that makes sense.

The hook of the dream

Look at the dream behind it. If you had made all this money with day trading, you see all these people making a lot of money: that's the hook. That's the sense that "if I get that, then I'll be okay." I think that's what's keeping you locked into a form of functioning that's stagnant.

It may be that you make money in smaller amounts at first doing something else, but money starts coming in sooner, with more immediate feedback. For example, with music or selling instruments, you're seeing money more immediately. What other ways could you direct more energy into those, or into something completely different, where you see quicker feedback from the universe saying, "Here's money, this is working for you"?

Coming from a deeper place

I suspect you're attached to investing time and effort into day trading even though it's already giving you sufficient evidence that it's not working for you. The universe isn't supporting you in that direction. And you're telling me the interest is really, "Well, people do it and they live in these big houses." That's the hook. By "hook," I mean what's emotionally pulling you. To me, that sounds like you're not coming from a deep enough place. You're not connecting deeply enough.

If that's the thing that's moving you, the universe isn't going to respond. If you're not coming from a deep place, you're not coming from a deep energy, and the universe won't support it.

What does the universe want to live through me?

One question you can work with is: what does the universe want to live through me, or as me? Although it's just a question, a kind of map, it can open you up to a deeper energy. Just assume that because you exist, there's something the universe wants to live as you, through you. That can move you.

When you move from that deeper energy, the universe is going to be supportive, because it's what it's wanting. I know this moves toward faith or trust, but that's what I'm proposing: do the experiment and trust.

You mean the universe would be supportive by giving me more energy, making me feel more alive, not necessarily giving me money?

Both. The money might be more indirect. It's not that the universe will suddenly throw money at you and make you rich, but there's going to be financial support for that direction. More importantly, there will be more energy, more feeling of aliveness, more awakening of capacities. Things won't feel like pure effort.

If everything feels like effort, if you don't want to do it but you need to because you need money, you're not coming from a deep enough place. Occasionally that's what happens and that's what we need to do. But if that's the way you've been functioning for many, many years, then something needs to move.

Yeah. I'm not sure I'd say it's all effort or that I don't like doing it. But yes, the universe doesn't cooperate.

That itself is very telling. Let's keep exploring this.