This session begins with a meditation on the collapse of inner and outer boundaries into one field of perception, then moves into dialogues exploring whether there is evidence for an external world, the self-created nature of illusion, and the process of disenchantment and dark nights on the path of awakening. The teacher discusses the threshold of loss in awakening, the poison of hope, and the obsessive nature of mind, while encouraging free, moment-by-moment discernment rather than rigid rules.